FF4 - Theme of Love (PRC130)
Oct 07, 2008 TheoryOfNonexistence
evktalo - guitar duets are relaxing :)
analoq - Bossa Nova is sexy :)
just64helpin - I like the computerized voice and stuff.
Oct 07, 2008 TheEndOfTime
Second: I <3 brass choir.
Third: The midi double bass makes me leaug. It would sound great with a solo section and real instruments! It had catchy and laid back feel to it.
Oct 07, 2008 DZComposer
2. I like this piece a lot. It was a tough choice between one and two, as I liked them both about the same. What ended up making the difference was use of source tune. It's melody didn't really appear until 2 minutes into the 3 minute piece.
3. I liked how acoustic this sounded, even with one of the guitars being electric. It stayed pretty true to the source, with enough original stuff to keep it fresh. I also liked hearing some dynamics, something a lot of guitar players seem to forget about. Nice chords at the end, too. Third because I felt that maybe a little more could have been done on the point of creating different sounding sections of the piece.
This piece is just too melodic for some of the trance entries. Not everything needs to be turned into pure beat.
Oct 08, 2008 evktalo
2:26 to Damcyan - I liked the relentlessness of the rhythm, there certainly was a drive forwards, and the progression was very nicely built up. Obviously quite fake samples - love that trumpet though. Nice 4/4 - 6/8 polyrhtyhm when the snare comes in. I also like the change from the source in the first 8 bars of bass/flute after the pause. This piece is definitely packed with great ideas. Redoing this with better, punchier sound might yield gold. I think I'll award it with my third place pick.
Return of Love - Impressive orchestral badassery. I especially like the initial buildup that starts with the FF4 main theme. The slowed-down, mass-of-strings take on the Theme of Love a-part melody is delicious as well. The speed-up around 02:20 doesn't work so well in my opinion, it sounds like the orchestra rushes it. It stops a bit short, but still considering how little time you used it's fairly complete as a piece.
Melodic Love - Fun to hear the track in this genre. The chord/bass progression is pretty interesting for it, nice work preserving it and making it work well. You could have had another lead instrument to alternate with the harp/harpsichord sound. There's an unpleasant note in the intro at 0:22 too.
We Love You Rexy - String pad and piano samples are the weakest thing about this track, they sound quite cheap. Otherwise no problems at all - a fantastic arrangement in my humble opinion. Wonderful, wonderful countermelody at 1:28. The original part that follows lifts up the track right afterwards. This part works with the melodic simplicity of the source really, really well. Well deserved first place pick.
Digitized Heart - I like those synth textures. The music fits the story. I love the idea. Kinda heartbreaking, actually.
cheers, rexy - or "cheese, rexy" as I like to call it.. ;) Indeed the material works very well in the genre. The electric guitar sounds very nice. The acoustic is very stiff, otherwise the instruments sound alright. Lovely piano intro as well. I liked this, it was fun and lazy and uplifting. Second place pick it is!
Evolution of Love - one of the best sounds overall in this round in my opinion - except that I don't like that lead sound very much. The melody line itself could also have used some variation.
I Love this Radio - Really good variations on the lead melody, this piece makes the material it's own. Very weak drums, which sort of work in context. The radio thing stuff is funny. :)
Theme of Fantasy Love - Another fun genre adaptation. Needs condensing, there is just one element for the first 45 seconds or so, two for the next 45 or so.. could have cut to the chase much faster. Some weird chords towards the end, some work in a very interesting way, some don't work. Instruments are in different keys, perhaps? 4:52-5:05 sounds very nice!
Dreaming of Brass Love - Very pleasant. I like the part with the exchanges in the middle. Somehow I'm reminded of Shining Force 2's music, that's a good thing.
Always and Forever - Very nice sounding adaptation. Not a great deal of interpretation, I agree, but a very cohesive whole. Especially I like those choirs.
The Runaway Five's Jazz Ballad of course also deserves a mention - actually, that's pretty damn impressive stuff. I enjoyed the guitar solo. I'd love to attend a gig of yours.
Oct 08, 2008 bundeslang
One hour of music. We can almost make it an album....
First a small comment about the Bonus Mixes:
Nario - A very nice MIDI Rip, the piano is great.
S|r Nuts - Amazing start, I like your trancey sampling. Long intro (typical for trance songs), but nice work.
TheEndoFTime - Long song, but exellent how you keep the song interesting. Really nice you guys shared this with us.
Then the Eligible (From Z to A) songs:
Theory of NonExistence - This song starts interesting, like it's on the background. I really like the next part (around 0:40), could be played in a Megaman game. Nice sampling. The end is a little boring and too long.
Setokaibarocket – Nice start, I don’t think the vocals fit fine, but it’s a funny background. I like the lead change around (1:37). After a while, the main lead becomes a bit boring. I love the strings in the background. The drums are the same during the whole song.
Pleiade – Interesting trancey start. I like the way you entered the source in the song at 1:00. The drums and bass are worked out well. There’s not much variation after the first minute, try to variate more next time.
OneUp – Interesting start, I like the built-up around 1:00. The next part is very surprising; I was expecting a trance explosion or something like that. The song misses some variation in the sampling; the same samples are playing during the whole middle part. The bass and drums are good.
Nutritious – This song is nice in his own way. I like what you’re doing in the beginning, but the next part is even better. After that, the song calms down, the way you did that is excellent. I don’t like the background sound from the last section, but still very nice orchestral song.
Just64helpin – Weird beginning, I like it. Not much happens in the song. The strings and other samples at the background are good. I like the funny (dying) ending of the song.
Hylian Lemon – Excellent bass in the start. The piano makes the song complete. There’s a lot of good stuff in the song, especially the string playing through almost the whole song is fantastic.
Evktalo – I think the balance between the guitars isn’t optimal, but I like the guitars. This is a very nice played song.
DZComposer – Nice playing. I like the fact that the song changes to a more jazzy part. The song is so calm at some parts, I love that. I think the background is dominating a bit too much in some parts. The ending is really living, nice work.
Binweasel – The background is the same through the whole song. The main lead is nice. The change around 1:49 is too extreme, but the ending is nice.
Analoq – The piano makes the begin, the drums and bass coming in later are needed. For the rest not much happends in the song, the samples are the same. The variating with the source is good.
Fantastic round. I see a three-pointer for me (the points which I get because I voted). My vote might be a surprise for some. I wish I was able to give more entries points, because they are all good.
Oct 08, 2008 Nutritious
I Love This Radio - I really liked this kind of take on the theme. Very different, chippish leads along some more natural sounding stuff. Things start to get a bit out of hand with the ad libs towards the end. Still, I think I had the most fun listening to this one out of all of them.
cheers, rexy - Very well executed bossa nova here. Everything is believable and clear production-wise. Very laid back feel. Fun listen.
Remembering Rosa - Third was the hardest to decide. I went with evtalko's mix since it's such a creative take on the original. Well executed production and good playing.
There really were 5 or 6 different entries I could've put on my votes and not felt them undeserving of the votes. Good job, everyone.
Oct 08, 2008 OneUp
Love the part that begins at 1:40! It lifts the whole song, but apart from that part, the arrengement wasn't very interesting. The production is a bit weak, it lacks some bass and the drums are too sharp for this style. And yes, we do love you Rexy!
* Digitized Heart by just64helpin
Another mellow one... The overall feeling of this one was nice, the instruments blends nicely. It starts very smooth and warm, but it really doesn't lift off. Too boring, but well made. Lol at the ending :D
* cheers, rexy by analoq
Very professional and well made! Only thing is that maraccas(?) is a bit too... crispy or something. As you say, the style adapts perfectly to the source, but I don't like bossa nova. Not really fun to listen to, no surprises.
* Evolution of love by Pleiade
The kick is too weak! The lead, pad and counter melody synths in this one is nice. The bass is very thin. I know that it's hard to handle the EQ on the instruments on this kind of music, but it's a very important part.
The build-ups and breakdowns is weak, and ends in an anti-climax almost everytime. The good part is the melodies, but there's not much variation. At the outro, you have a pluck synth melody that sounds awesome, should have used it earlier!
* I Love This Radio by TheoryOfNonexistence
The solo parts in this are wonderful! The arrengement is nice, and though it's mellow and kinda repetetive, it never becomes boring (maybe cause the tune is so short ;) ). I like the synths a lot, especially the one that has that vibrato. I like vibrato.
* Theme of Fantasy Love by bundeslang
I think you should stick to your prefered styles ;)
This sounds very amateur, that lead is really annoying, it shouldn't be used as a stand alone instrument. The bassdrum sounds like on the good old Fasttracker years, but should have been left there :p
* Remembering Rosa by evktalo
Ah, guitars. Guitars are good, wish I could handle them. Very well played, but the arrangement lacks something... I was waiting for a duel like the scene in that movie you know :D
* Dreaming of Brass Love by DZComposer
Nothing really too complain about (as you might've realized is something I love to do :p). You pulled it off really great, very professional, it sounds authentic. These are not my preferred styles though, but I love when you went jazzy, it became much more interesting.
*Always and Forever by setokaibarocket
I liked this minimalistic one. It sounds like the fairy music in Link to the Past, or at least a remix of it.
* 2:26 to Damycan by Binweasel
The beginning sounds very promising. Like that western feeling. Was waiting for it to take off at 1:45 with some high paced guitars and percussions. Could've been great!
* Return of Love by Nutritious
Wow, all this in such short time! Very movie-music like. A lot of interesting things going on, and I think you could make an ORC submission of this if you work on it. My favourite!
* Melodic Love by OneUp
The idea was good, but I was too lazy to pull it off. I was going for vocals for this one, but couldn't find anyone with such a thing, and I learned that you definitely can't record song on the mic that came with the computer... The ending half of this song was made in less then an hour thanks to me being lazy.
My beautiful girlfriend was meant to sing it, and wrote these lyrics:
Now we gather strength
for the journey ahead
And on forgotten paths we fly away
We fought the beast
The shadow was near
But now we rise
And now we'll fly away
Red wings are strong
We must be brave
Our goal is clear
To fight the beast, and we will win
In the name of love
Puh! Forgive me for being so negative.
Thank you Rexy.
Oct 08, 2008 Chickenwarlord
Honorable mentions go to Binweasel, for creating a fun piece in a different direction than anyone else, and Analoq for his awesomeova entry.
Oct 09, 2008 kylenin
TheoryOfNonexistence gets first. I liked the laid-back feel of it. And maybe it wasn't done on purpose, but it sounds a lot like some of GaMeBoX's work. And I like that.
analoq gets second, mainly for the same reason above.
And Pleiade gets third. I love that techno music.
Oct 09, 2008 Hylian_Lemon
analoq - I hadn't even thought of that style, but it works really well. Good interpretation, clean sound.
DZComposer - I like the story, and the structure of the remix is nice as well. I particularly like the more jazzy section at the end; you don't hear that style quite as often.
Oct 09, 2008 JH Sounds
We Love You Rexy: The time signature change halfway through really makes this stand out for me. Nice instrument choices and stuff, also.
Remembering Rosa: Sorta reminds me of Coldplay for some reason. "Speed of Sound" in particular. I love the stereoized dueling guitars.
I Love This Radio: Nice consistent feel. Funny concept, too.
Honorable mention: Pleiade's is probably the first trance remix that I've really liked. I guess it has to do with the lead, or the track's overall "epic"ness. Anyways, good.
Oct 09, 2008 analoq
Very intimate guitar duet. Lovely chords reminiscent of Stairway to Heaven. Not much to complain about here, so first pick.
-I Love This Radio
Taking things down a notch and giving a laid-back approach always earns points with me; I know how difficult it is to do it and still keep the forward-momentum. This is the sort of thing that would end up in my regular listening playlists if it had some technical professionalism and was more developed.
-Dreaming of Brass Love
Owning sample libraries is not a feat but knowing how to use them is, so I applaud you for being able to get some good brass going. My gripe was the 'concert'-ish styled brass sounded a bit awkward in the jazzier section, but this may have been from the harmonies -- a bit tame for jazz. Trumpet player for 7 years here, so I dig the overall sound.
some others I liked:
-We Love You Rexy
Technically inferior to a few of the other entries, but I was pleased as this progressed it didn't try to be a perfunctory orchestral take, only incorporate some of those elements. Interesting counter-melodies and original sections. This was a very early entry, so managing to put it together in those time constraints shows some inspiration was available.
-Evolution of love
Punchy sounds, pumping beat and it kept up the momentum. My gripe is the use of the source material: Stripping the melody of its harmonic inflections so that it fits into a cookie-cutter chord progression seemed like a cop-out. Technically speaking though, very good trance.
-Return of Love
Another technically excellent remix. Relied on one too many 'Hollywood' melodramatic clichés for me to enjoy it, but that's quite subjective. Objectively it appeared rushed, but clearly work was put into it. Good stuff.
overall, great round. I would have put some time into my contribution if I knew we'd have such a turnout.
Oct 10, 2008 Hardbeat_Acolyte
Anyways, this was roughly the order that i had decided to vote (probably exactly, which as i mentioned in a comment in the document is probably an oxymoron, lol).
Please forgive my lack of reasoning but the next person booked on this PC is here =/
Oct 10, 2008 Rexy
1 - I Love This Radio -
This mix makes me think that it could have been mistaken for an early GameBoX arrangement - quite a fair amount of the arrangement inspirations remind me of "Robotnik Radio" from Project Chaos in particular. :D It's got a great mixture of familiarity and interpretation, so this makes it one of the more fun entries amidst what's been submitted. To be fair I would have thought the drums were mixed a little weakly in comparison to some of the other instruments, not to mention it having a sudden ending too (though I do get the understanding on what was supposed to happen - a weak signal with a transistor radio), but still this is a very fun piece of work. Nice one, ToN.
2 - Remembering Rosa -
This one totally surprised me - it's rare that we have an acoustic mix like this on the PRC, so it made me feel warm. I wouldn't call it the best recording setup I've heard for this kind of mix (quite a lot of hiss here), but it definitely works to identify both instruments well and a great compliment for arrangement structure too. Good work.
3 - cheers, rexy -
Ah, analoq. Usually one of the core favorites to win a PRC by reputation alone. :D
Much like with ektavlo's interpretation, the use of a different genre in comparison to the norm - in this case being bossa nova - was a great surprise. And just like we expect to see from you we get a great mixture between tasteful arrangement and fitting production work. I wouldn't call it the best set of piano sequencing I've heard from you however (seems a little bit dry if you know what I mean), not to mention it ending on a rather sudden note, but it's definitely up there if you're going to get points from me. Cheers.
Others that I appreciated -
2:26 to Damcyan -
I like the heroic tone you've got going for the arrangement on this one - it definitely DOES make me feel as if I'm riding a chocobo across the continent to my next destination. But this is the problem now - while a great way to arrange the tune, there doesn't seem to be as much of a level of interpretation or production polish in comparison to other entries. But it's tasteful, I give you that now - don't give up on the future endeavours.
We Love You Rexy -
You know, this was the track that I heard when I first realised that sole moment on how powerful the PRC turnout had become - almost like an end credits track to a reflective animé, or something. It's got some interesting ways of interpretation, and the piano arpeggio in the middle definitely had a way to be able to lift the mood due to this. analoq got it right though - not quite as technically sound as some of the other entries though and just missed out from my points granting on this one, but it's definitely a great way to show inspiration to the other competitors and it took some real bones to be able to do that. Ben, you rock. :)
Dreaming of Brass Love -
Much like analoq, I also feel that whenever you take part in a PRC (which is very rare), you're most likely one of the key competitors to come out on form. However, in this case I wasn't quite as overwhelmed by the arrangement here so I couldn't really grant much in terms of points. I do love the idea that you're able to put together from it as well as your brass programming - discussing the latter though, I believe that is THE hardest orchestrated instrument bank to ever sequence right, and in terms of what I've sensed from here, I think you did really well with what you've got. So yeah, I can say you've got something well, and I hope you'll be able to finish off your initial vision one day - if you still end up working on it after the PRC is over, I'll most definitely be looking forward to it.
Evolution of Love -
Welcome to PRC, Pleiade.
How can I guess that there'd be at least one person who'd do an FFMusicDJ and make some kind of trance arrangement of the theme? :D
To say that you didn't use the MIDI file shows that you've managed to do well on an arrangement basis - definitely feels like one of those floaty trance tracks that you'd expect near the end of a long set, so this feels very warmly appreciated. It didn't quite get into the points due to it basically suffering from repetition like most other tracks of this genre do here, not to mention having weak production work going for it (EQs are fine, but I'm sure you can be able to get/manipulate some better synth leads here), but it's still pretty good for a newbie.
Return of Love -
Now this is a rather well thought out orchestrated arrangement here - the production for this one is actually pretty good considering that I haven't heard much of that side for you, so it's all very much appreciated. What I tend to have problems with here is that the transitions between some of the sections tend to be rather sudden, especially with what I noted with the second half of the song. But it's still a tasteful adaptation nonetheless, so I say well done on that one.